“We had a yard up in Harlem on 135th Street where the trains would lay up over night. The kids would come the first night and paint the side of the train white. Then they would come the next night after it was dry, and draw an outline. Then they would come the third night and color it in. It was a three-day job. We knew the kids would be working on one of the dirty trains, and what we would do is wait for them to finish their mural. Then we’d walk over with rollers and paint it over. The kids would be in tears, but we’d just keep going, up and down, up and down. It was a message to them. If you want to spend three nights of your time vandalizing a train, fine. But it’s never going to see the light of day.”